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Andy talking about robots
« on: March 04, 2023, 10:38:58 am »
For your entertainment, here is a video of Andy talking about robots.
He starts at about 24:45 minutes in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNsf3dwmfZA

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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2023, 20:33:19 pm »
Thanks for sharing.  So that's what Andy's been up to!

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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2023, 18:10:50 pm »
Thanks for sharing.  So that's what Andy's been up to!
At the expense of CB development I am afraid. :(


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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2023, 19:14:51 pm »
At the risk of being accused again of being a gouche American talking about money... 

With Fusion being still free (sorta) to hobbyists and startups taking a large share of the market its hard to compete with a paid product that while quite good is not as good.  I had hoped to set an example by paying for a second license some time back and I felt like I got more negative feedback for that than positive. 

There is another "free" tool on the market as well.  DesignSpark's basic products are free last time I checked.  I do seem to recall their upgraded service products are subscription based like F360.

I am 100% against subscription based seat warmers, but I wouldn't objected to paying upgrade fees for significant product improvements.  I do think bug fixes should always be free, but many companies don't seem to feel that way. 

(metaphoric seat warmers)

I still use CamBam everyday inspite of some significant bugs.  I think it would continue to be a great product if just all the bugs are fixed. 
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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2023, 19:15:08 pm »
How about that?!?!  I've been censored, for the first time ever on CamBam!

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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2023, 19:39:50 pm »
I've installed F360's hobbyist, but never used it.  I didn't know it could generate g-code (doah!)

What was your reference to buying a 2nd license?  I didn't get that.
I hate subscription based software.  "Seat warmers"?  I've not heard that term in reference to software.  (Its okay to use normal language.)  ;-)

For the money, CB is quite a great value, but then I don't get into the CNC trenches as deeply as many of you do who make a living with it.
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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2023, 10:16:47 am »
How about that?!?!  I've been censored, for the first time ever on CamBam!

Lloyd

Lloyd, would you care to elucidate ?
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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2023, 12:49:37 pm »
I made a long post night before last about my concerns for how the site was maintained.  I posted it.  I CONFIRMED that it posted properly and was readable after leaving the site and returning.  Then I came back the next afternoon to find it gone without a trace -- Not even a 'marker' saying the post had been deleted due to its content.

I posted it a full day after the crash and the upgrades had been done, so I'm pretty confident it wasn't the result of the software's failing.  But it would have been nice to have been 'confronted' about the content before deleting it.

FWIW, there was nothing vile, vulgar, or demeaning about it.   No cursing.  No condemnations.  It consisted entirely of legitimate concerns from an old (ex) software developer.

Oh, well.

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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2023, 15:31:41 pm »
Oh, I read that.  I don't know about Andy, but most of us little guys who have websites don't actually have physical control of our servers.  We use space on a shared server that's part of a server farm.  Some may have a virtual private server, but it's still basically a shared server at a server farm.  It is possible to set up a private server, but it's quite a bit more work and headache and the internet connection to run a private server is a bit more expensive. Most standard ISPs turn a blind eye to something like a video surveillance server or a file server that's just used for internal personal use and file access, but they will shut you down if you're running an open web server.  Its universally in their TOS.

In addition hardly any complex web scripts use an easy to backup flat file structure. Most use a secondary SQL or MySQL server to store databases. You don't have direct access to it like you do with your web server. You have to go through a control panel and use an SQL admin interface. I don't know if you could set up a chron job to do some sort of automatic backup, but it's certainly more involved than just cloning a drive that's physically in your possession.  In this case one of the indexes for the database had become corrupted based on the messages that we were able to see. Possibly the database itself had been corrupted.  Even if there was a backup it's possible that the backup may have been corrupted. 

A clone might not have been very practical. 

I've been running web scripts using various databases for about 20 years, and lost all my online data a couple times. 

SMF no longer has an easy internal database backup/restore tool.  I find that to be highly annoying as it makes the easiest way to change hosting companies unavailable. 

I'm not saying that some sort of backup that would have facilitated restoring The forum faster couldn't have been done. I'm just saying it might be a little bit more complex and involved than you think, and we have to note that Andy has been busy and slow sometimes even to send out licenses for new CamBam purchases.  The time necessary for the sort of continuous backup and restore capability you talk about may simply not be available to him.

Andy, if you feel like deleting this go ahead but please give Lloyd time to read it first.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2023, 16:14:45 pm by Bob La Londe »
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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2023, 15:38:54 pm »
Hello Lloyd,

How about that?!?!  I've been censored, for the first time ever on CamBam!

Lloyd

Nothing censored, I deleted nothing  ???

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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2023, 16:18:08 pm »
I didn't think you'd have done that, David.  It just 'vanished'.

The site just went down (for me, over here) for about 15 minutes.  I came back to find the post is back!  (in Latest News).

I don't know...

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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2023, 16:32:04 pm »
this one ?

https://cambamcnc.com/forum/index.php?topic=10351.msg77515#msg77515

I seen it just after you posted it ... and for me it never disappeared  ???

I've no explanation ...

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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2023, 16:35:54 pm »
Yep, David, that's the one.  But now it's back.  So I guess I'll write it up to having had a "Vuja De" moment! <grin>

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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2023, 16:46:01 pm »
"Vuja De" ? ... I do not know what it mean  ???

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Re: Andy talking about robots
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2023, 17:34:24 pm »
"Vuja De" ? ... I do not know what it mean  ???

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I guess it's a funny way to write 'deja vu' :)

About a couple of hours before now the forum didn't open when I tried.
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