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Offline georgeb

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cutting wax
« on: January 21, 2013, 15:43:06 pm »
Well, thanks in part to suggestions here, yesterday I completed creating and cutting out my first test part, Thanks for the help so far.

I am making some pocket clips for fountain pens and they are rather delicate.  Rather than practicing on sterling silver sheet, I'm cutting the parts from .050" sheet green hard wax since some clips will be cast and the wax parts will be masters to make molds from.

For those who cut wax on their mills I have a question; Is their a preferred speed/feed and type of endmill to create the cleanest edges of a part?

I used a 1/16" two fluted bit with rather short cutting flutes and cut at a rather slow speed and the wax seemed to wad up on the end mill.  I made three passes of .015" each then a final pass of .006" and if you look at the photo, you will see that the gob of wax on the cutter made contact with the part on each subsequent pass causing a build up of wax on the part itself.

I have seen a few videos where folks are cutting wax and they are creating tiny chips rather than having the wax gob up on their cutters so obviously I need to find a better process.  My first thought would be to make only one pass at the entire depth of .050" since it's just wax and perhaps another bit with longer flutes in the hopes that the wax would run up the bit rather than stay close to the tip causing the gob. 

The wax is the hardest Rio Grande Jewelry Supply sells and is what they recommend for machining.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.


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Re: cutting wax
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2013, 18:52:12 pm »
It could be the LDPE or HDPE content (plastic shopping bags). Have a look at this thread http://madmodder.net/index.php/topic,7213.msg77193.html#msg77193. Look for type 2 or 3 on the recycling symbol on shopping bags if you want a gp at making your own :-)

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Re: cutting wax
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2013, 19:25:59 pm »
Hello George

A tip is cheaper you make a mold and use a stamping on press.
Or make silicone mold using a model of piece.
If you make several pieces of wax on CNC, become expensive.

    Armando

Offline Jeff_Birt

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Re: cutting wax
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2013, 19:27:26 pm »
It could be that your RPMs are too high. To high a spindle speed and/or too slow a feed rate and your just creating more heat so you can get melthing on wax/plastics.

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Re: cutting wax
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2013, 20:05:08 pm »
This site may be of help: http://www.machinablewax.com/using_machinable_wax.htm

Their was may be a better choice than jewelers wax as well.

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Re: cutting wax
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2013, 22:14:18 pm »
George i don't have any experience with using machinable wax so had a look around. The one thing i have noticed looking at all the vids and things is the feed speeds are very high. What spindle speeds and feeds are you using?

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Re: cutting wax
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2013, 07:23:13 am »
I have never cut wax myself, but have heard from collegues that this kind of behaviour comes from the feed being to slow or rpms too high.
Try again cutting faster.
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Re: cutting wax
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2013, 10:11:42 am »
Hello George

A tip is cheaper you make a mold and use a stamping on press.
Or make silicone mold using a model of piece.
If you make several pieces of wax on CNC, become expensive.

    Armando


Did you make those clips? If so I would love to see more details on how you did that, maybe a few pictures from start to finish. They loo very nice.


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Re: cutting wax
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2013, 11:36:34 am »
Hi Rodney

I have not done the clip.
It's amazing you read my mind!
The tip of the clip is a heart, the shape of heart has many applications.
I'm thinking of making a plugin.

See attached file.

    Armando

Offline georgeb

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Re: cutting wax
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2013, 17:06:20 pm »
Just in case anyone is interested.........

I found the KOOLMIST PORTAMIST setup at Enco for almost 50% off so I took advantage of the sale and installed the setup a few days ago using their #78 solution.  I ran the program again using the same wax, same cutter, same spindle speed and feed rate as before when I wound up with a gob of wax on my cutter.

The difference was amazing!  The KoolMist kept the cutter VERY cold during the operation which had a lot to do with the cut quality which was obvious since nothing else changed from before.  I think a little tinkering with different feeds and speeds will result in parts that I am looking for.