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Offline chappo

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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2016, 22:37:04 pm »
The CAM section in Fusion 360 allows dovetail cutters in the tool library, so I would think that it would work in the Simulation mode.

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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2016, 22:46:54 pm »
Well, there you go!  Gotta have Autodesk, gotta have a 64-bit machine, and gotta have LOTSA money.

Other than that... it's perfect!  (except I cannot evaluate it, because I haven't the first two!)

Thanks, Chappo.  But that won't work for me, unless I spend several thousand dollars on 'infrastructure', even before I TRY the software!

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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2016, 03:31:10 am »
Well, the good thing is that Fusion 360 is free to users with a turnover less than 100k (from memory).
But, yes, you do need a 64 bit OS - I run it on my Windows 10 Home laptop.
I ran a quick simulation this morning, and yes, it does simulate the dovetail cutter.

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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2016, 13:29:20 pm »
So... how do I load gcode from CamBam into Autodesk Fusion 360 and simulate it?

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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2016, 16:54:48 pm »
You don't load from CB. You model your part in Fusion 360, and generate tool paths and G-code in Fusion not CB. The good news is that Fusion is currently free for small users.

The bad news this is Autodesk, the ultimate customer be damned 800 lb gorilla. At some point in the future they will be holding all the work you have done in Fusion 360 hostage and demanding monthly ransome money to get it back. They could play nice, supply a great product and make lots of money in the process. But they are like Ebola, it isn't in their DNA to just make you sick.
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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2016, 17:15:37 pm »
OK, that is what I thought. Seems strange recommending a complete alternative set of tools to CamBam on the CamBam forum.  :P

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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2016, 22:55:15 pm »
This is a nice forum. If you recommended CB on the Fusion 360 forum they'd likely cancel your forum registration!
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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2016, 00:54:30 am »
Andy gave us a fantastic tool with CAMBAM, and many have added tremendously to it with help to other users, with add-ons and plug-ins.

CAMBAM does not exist in a vacuum, hence if there is another software tool, or piece of code, or idea from somewhere else, why not mention it and discuss it.  That what has gotten CAMBAM to the place it is now, and what will keep it advancing for present and future users.

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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2016, 01:08:27 am »
Imagining,

You miss the point, I think!

The point was that Fusion is a complete replacement for CamBam (or at least touted to be, although I doubt it!).

The fact that it won't run on any of my machines, costs LOTS of money, and cannot use CamBam g-code files, kind of puts me off, but not altogether! (or maybe altogether.... <G>)

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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2016, 06:58:46 am »
Just to clear the air.
I didn't recommend Fusion 360!
Lloyd asked a perfectly valid question about a feature not available in CamBam/CutViewer - I answered his question.
I run CamBam, and other CAD/CAM programs as suits my need, and I am not claiming preference of any one over any other.

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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2016, 10:50:13 am »
Yeah, and I appreciated the comment.  Nor did I criticize the product.  I know nothing about it, except that it will not run on my hardware.


(I have heard other negatives in the past about Autodesk's licensing and treatment of customers, but that has zero bearing on the conversation.)

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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2016, 17:03:30 pm »
I don't know how big the HexRay comapny is, is just Andy or there are other programers too ?

Maybe Andy can estimate how much time his team needs to make a simulation plugin for cambam, or embed it directly and set a donation page with the target amount of money displayed something like kickstarter.

We Need xxxx Euro
We got so far xxxx Euro

Donate 10, 20 or more to get Simulation in the next update ....


I think many users using cambam will donate for an embedded simulator. No more hassle with syncing tool libraries, exporting gcode just to check the simulation, and as they already do alot of calculations to generate the toolpaths, they "only" need to make the visualization part :)

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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2016, 17:28:33 pm »
I would dearly love it if Andy could provide us with a sim... I'm sure he'd include things that are important, like dovetail cutters and t-slot cutters, etc.  (maybe even a way to edit your own cutter geometry for special stuff like ogive cutters).

But... it's been a while since an update to CB, and I have a sense he's overwhelmed as it is.  The understanding is that in addition to 'features', he's been porting it to a different development platform, too!

We'll see.  Andy -- PLEASE!  If you're reading this, you know what we need.  CutViewer just isn't being responsive at all, even to REAL bugs... like wrong-sized paths, miscalculated paths, etc... so I presume there's zero chance they'll be "dolling it up" with new features, as well.

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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2016, 19:29:04 pm »
Andy is aware of the limitations of Cut Viewer.  It's my understanding that the next major release of CB will have a lot of new capability, and is intended to be it's 1+ version. 
Getting started on CNC?  In or passing through my area?
If I have the time I'll be glad to show you a little in my shop. 

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Re: Isn't there ANY simulator?
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2016, 20:21:11 pm »
Yeah, I know.

Don't get me wrong -- CutViewer was worth every penny.  But as my skills advanced, as CamBam's capabilities advanced, and as TIME advanced, the cutviewer guys haven't fixed ANYTHING of substance!

It still has many of the same (really stupid) bugs it had five or six years ago... yet they keep selling it, because it's still "about the best" with CamBam.

Eh... I'd still recommend it, too... but with reservations.  I use it every day.

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